Fishbone Jones said:Following are all legit questions.
Yes they are. And good ones too.
So, even before all the ballots are counted and some states are near even and can flip either way, he's supposed to concede?
No. Nothing says he needs to concede. But his side is actually even claiming victory despite all evidence to the contrary. As I stated, the refusal to begin the transition process concurrently is the issue. When has that ever happened before?
With hundreds of affidavits, which are eye witness statements, alleging illegalities. Some of which were shown on TV, proof of counting machine malfunction actually flipping votes. Given all that, should Trump not be afforded his due process to legal recourse?
If any of it was substantial and widespread and provable sure. So far very few of the accusations have any proof at all that any of that happened. There will always be irregularities but they are so few that they do not indicate widespread fraud in the numbers they are alleging. Under questioning for example, the postal worker that claimed to see fraud recanted as his story was so full of holes. A lawyer had to concede that his statement had no basis after a judge reminded him of his membership standard as a member of the bar when it was falsely claimed that GOP observers were not there for counting when they were in certain districts. Or the guy that Giuliai trotted out at the four seasons landscaping company next to the sex shop press conference who is now shown to be a quack activist who happens to be convicted sex offender. Very credible indeed.
Again, recounts and lawsuits as required but it can still happen concurrently with the transition process.
Lastly, could you point me to something that proves Trump weaponized the DOJ to stall, what, exactly?
I doubt it. You already doubt any and all news sources as you stated that most people would find reliable, so even with the links I will provide I doubt it would persuade you. As to his stalling I think it has to do with two things.
1) Control of the Senate is still undecided. This move is likely to drum up support to make sure it goes red.
2) Trump is eventually going to leave that is a certainty. But on his way out he will claim it was all rigged and that's why he lost. He can't accept that twice now, the electorate rejected him. This time it is both via the popular vote by large margin and the College vote (last time it was only the popular vote). The popular vote does not decide the election but it is still an indicator of nation wide support. It's probably why he can't let that go either from last time. H
He is creating a false narrative to keep his support base. And they will fall for it. They are being played plain and simple but they refuse to see it and this narrative will satisfy them. And it sets up a potential run for 2024.
Remember, he has claimed that the process was rigged when Obama won, when Trump lost certain primaries, when he ran against Clinton, in 2018 and now in 2020. It's a pattern with so far no real proof. He has lost every single court case in regards to this rigging business. It's the same old tired song and dance.
As to the weaponization of the DOJ, this has been the opinion of several people given that Barr has done so many shady things for Trump that top prosecutors have been resigning for a while. This is just the lastest.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-2020-election-results/2020/11/10/933395215/head-of-doj-s-election-crimes-unit-steps-down-after-barr-oks-election-inquiries
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-legal-idUSKBN27Q05A
On the current weponization of the DOJ
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525402-barr-sparks-doj-firestorm-with-election-probe
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/06/eric-holder-william-barr-weaponized-doj-426747
There are many more.
My opinion on Fox, it is calculated to to curry favour with their new masters. The thousands that are continuing to walk away. They believe they were betrayed. Perhaps the democrats as some of their own have,stated, anyone connected to Trump will become a non-person. Maybe Fox doesn't want to be seen as being on the side of, the soon to be, shunned. Again, my opinion, I haven't dealt with Fox since election night. I really don't know if there's media out there I trust anymore.
Who are their new masters exactly? Rupert Murdoch still owns that company and is still one of the most watched news sources in the US. Why all of a sudden would new masters? That certainly didn't happen when Obama won, why now?
So people are walking away when the voice for Trump, which they have trusted for years, suddenly reports the real news? And they feel betrayed? They should feel betrayed, but not because Fox is refusing to go along with what are being described as attacks on democracy.
Fair enough if there are no more media to be trusted. I assume you speak of eth MSM. But I'm pretty sure that social media, conspiracy bloggers and internet unknowns are not the alternative. Largely speaking.
Calls of congrats? I don't think there's as many as people expect. China even stated they would not interfere in the election by congratulating Biden prematurely before it is actually official. Pretty sure I heard a lot of countries are following suit for that same reason. Again, just an opinion.
Canada
Israel
UK
France
India
Turkey
Australia
Japan
South Korea
Ireland
Saudi Arabia
Germany
Pretty much most Strategic Allies have all called Biden to offer congratulations.
Russia, China, North Korea have not. No surprising as I am sure they are not happy with a Biden win as they are foes. And most like having Trump. Described by some as a "Useful Idiot".
No one, in the International community has congratulated Trump on a the victory his team is saying he won.
I'm trying to stand back from this and watch it unfold without leaning. Probably won't work, but that's where I'm shooting for. Already learned some pretty neat stuff, digging around for legalities and history of the US system.
As a political junkie watching this from afar, I find the whole thing horrifyingly fascinating. I have no doubt that entire university programs will be created for this. Decades of studies and historical perspectives for sure.
Sorry if I didn't respond as I was busy with Nov 11th stuff and felt like staying away from this topic on that day.
My answers above.
Cheers.
