The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Haggis]

This was a "win" for the Liberals. Minister Blair provoked an emotional response from Ms. Stubbs, who is now the easily angered face of the gun lobby. Blair got his message out in the public domain. Now the Conservatives are on the defensive and will have to rebut/refute Blair's claims which will keep his message alive. When the Conservatives do respond they stand to alienate the vocal far right gun crowd like the all-or-nothing NFA. Enter Mad Max with his 2A style proposals and the right vote is split again.

 

[Jed]

I disagree with this, Haggis. Splitting the vote is not even possible for this next round of elections. The battleground for the next government is almost all Ontario and East. In the West, there will not be enough Maverick candidates to cause any National problem. The NDP is now full blown Liberal closet votes. Max's party will not have enough traction because the Mainstream Media has it in for them.

 

[HiTechComms]

Not likely. Victims of the Danforth shooting are suing S&W. The last thing the Liberals want to see on the front page is "Trudeau Government Buys New Military Pistol Made by Danforth Gun Manufacturer"

Funny how a gun manufacturer is liable for a murderous, criminal scum bag.

So if some one wants to use a vehicle to commit mass murder will Car manufacturers be liable?

Better yet Gun Manufacturers should just sue the government in their failure to correctly.
1. Stop smuggling at the border
2. granting an RPAL
3. Granting an STATT or LTATT
4. RCMP failing to do a proper background check on the shooter.

 

[brihard]

Funny how a gun manufacturer is liable for a murderous, criminal scum bag.

So if some one wants to use a vehicle to commit mass murder will Car manufacturers be liable?

Better yet Gun Manufacturers should just sue the government in their failure to correctly.
1. Stop smuggling at the border
2. granting an RPAL
3. Granting an STATT or LTATT
4. RCMP failing to do a proper background check on the shooter.

Why would they have done a background check on him? He didn’t have a gun license, and the handgun he used was stolen here in Canada. His brother got busted with an apartment full of illegal firearms.

EDIT TO ADD: Mods, could the sidetrack be moved over to the gun debate thread so we keep this on pistols for CAF?

 

[Jarnhamar]

I'm curious why there's a requirement for
.40cal swapping.

 

[Haggis]

I'm curious why there's a requirement for
.40cal swapping.

For the same reason not everyone gets to wear Multicam?

 

[HiTechComms]

Why would they have done a background check on him? He didn’t have a gun license, and the handgun he used was stolen here in Canada. His brother got busted with an apartment full of illegal firearms.

EDIT TO ADD: Mods, could the sidetrack be moved over to the gun debate thread so we keep this on pistols for CAF?

I was being facetious/sarcastic.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I'm curious why there's a requirement for
.40cal swapping.

Very odd requirement as police forces are generally moving away from it to 9mm where they are allowed to. However .40cal ball will have more stopping power than 9mm ball, if that's all you are allowed to carry.

 

[HiTechComms]

Very odd requirement as police forces are generally moving away from it to 9mm where they are allowed to. However .40cal ball will have more stopping power than 9mm ball, if that's all you are allowed to carry.

Lots of PD still carry the Glock 22. Problem with the 40 cal is that people with smaller hands complain about holding a 2X4,
I believe Edmonton and Calgary PD uses the 40.

I shoot 40 cal myself and don't have giant mitts so I can see why they would want it.

There are some guns that easily swap between 9mm and 40.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Yea my Sig 229 can shoot .40cal, 357Sig and 9mm, also .22cal if I buy the subcal kit for it

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Yea my Sig 229 can shoot .40cal, 357Sig and 9mm, also .22cal if I buy the subcal kit for it

Yes, but can it shoot 5.7x28 FN?

Another fly in the ointment, just as we're looking for a new sidearm.

NATO Standardizes the FN 5.7x28mm Cartridge for Small Arms

Joining the 5.56x45 and 7.62x51, the FN 5.7x28mm gains acceptance by NATO for standard small caliber ammunition for allied forces.

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MARCH 1, 2021

NATO Standardizes the FN 5.7x28mm Cartridge for Small Arms​

JOINING THE 5.56X45 AND 7.62X51, THE FN 5.7X28MM GAINS ACCEPTANCE BY NATO FOR STANDARD SMALL CALIBER AMMUNITION FOR ALLIED FORCES.
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[Colin Parkinson]

I can't afford to shoot 5.7x28!! Would love a P90, but with ammo expense and a pinned to 5 round mag what is the point.