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fusilier
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What's this I hear about the Canadian Forces getting the Barrett .50 cal sniping rifle? Fact or fiction?
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para
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Fact quite a while now, living under a rock? not quite playing an active role in the real army?
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fusilier
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I'm a reg force Jimmy now so I don't get much on the the infantry side anymore, as much as I'd like to.
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Bratok
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the RCR have one per batallion, and it's not a Barrett, it is some other .50 caliber rifle
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colgan
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I am pretty sure it is a Mc Millan 50 cal.It's hard to find info on the net about it, if anybody knows of any sites about it let me know
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fusilier
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quote: Originally posted by para not quite playing an active role in the real army? /QB]
And exactly what trade are you?
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Grubby
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Try at this web site under weapons... might be worth something to look at: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/4895/ Grubby Pro Patria
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Doug
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He may be a little cocky but he's infantry and he is para. It's about time that he got the guts to post on the form. I like that he's listed as an FNG. Keep your chin up Para, I'll be back soon.
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colgan
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Did not see it there grubby. Thanks any ways
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Grubby
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Colgan...sorry buddy it was worth a shot anyway... Hey Doug how's the tour going overseas? Take care and have a safe tour man. [ 18 August 2001: Message edited by: Grubby ]
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para
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re. fusilier my job right now Oservation det / int Op Pallaidium Bosnia
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fusilier
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are you an int op or infantry?
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stosh
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FYI - they had an article in the Maple Leaf talking about the new .50 cal sniper rifle from McBros that the army has purchased. Here is the link... http://www.dnd.ca/menu/maple/Vol_3/Vol3_18/army10-11.pdf Cheers.
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colgan
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Thanks stosh..thats good info
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Redeye
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During my Ph. II this summer, the sniper cell gave us a demo during which they displayed all their weapons, including the Parker-Hale .308 (Sniper Rifle 7.62mm C3), the McMillan M88 in .50 cal, and the Barrett Light Fifty... which is NOT light, as well as a C7 with a special night/thermal optics set used by the spotter. So they have both weapons. It was interesting to note that they are limited in the amount of shooting they can do with the .50's because of the overpressure caused by the shot, it can cause retina detachment! The kick of the rifles is something to be reckoned with, if I remember right the Barrett delivers a whopping 12 joules of recoil ... the snipers compared it to being hit with a baseball bat.
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Tommy Atkins
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Someone was pulling your leg the Barret kick about the same as a 12 gauge shotgun firing 3in Mags.It is stiff but not painful,you definatley don't want to put say 100 rnds down range in a day,but it is alot less than one would think.The McMillan 's recoil is dampened by its muzzle brake that vents the gas rearward and to the side which actually causes the rifle the jump forward,that takes some getting used to as well the muzzle blast is hard on your spotter.
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Gordon Angus Mackinlay
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Ladies and Gentlemen, have just been reading these postings with interest. Below is a response I made to a question on 2nd battalion, The Parachute Regiment in Macedonia, about the 12 man sniper section of Patrols Company armed with ".338 calibre sniper weapons" "It is the Accuracy International (see their ebsite) .338 (8.6mm) Super Magnum (also known as the Supra Lupua, 3000 fps) weapons system fitted with the Bausch & Lomb 10x42-power scope. Basically the L96A1design, only much better. Bolt action weapon, 5 round mag, 6.8kg (empty without telescope, 1268mm long. Its barrel is much heavier thean the L96. According to the blurb from AI it can be ordered in .300 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum calibres This system gives first hit probability out to 1,100+ metres without the weight and recoil penalty of the .5 Browning cartridge was used by such 12.7mm weapons as the Barrett or the MacMillan. The Royal Marines bought 44, and the regular army 73. Also is fitted in British service with the Simrad KN200 night optics. I had the pleasure of firing it at the begining of the year, it is an absolutely unbelieviable piece of equipment. The .338 round has an incrediably flat trajectory, actual bullet is made out of tungston (A$15:80 each), and its kinetic energy is 85% of the .5 Browning on impact. It also comes in at one third of the price of the .5 Barrett M90A1. A very old friend (served together at Infantry Centre) is the AI rep in AUST/NZ, he got both to buy the L96 in 7.62mm. But, for some reason the AUST Army has a fixation with the Barrett, and will so buy. Weapon and ammunition more expensive, spare parts extremely expensive (firing pin $114, and break after some 38-40 rounds!), big heavy awkward thing to carry, operator needs specialist training beyond that normally needed by a marksman/sniper. Totally beyond me. I must admit I'm bias, in my youth I was a very good shot, and was still shooting on a regular basis until about ten years ago. In recent years only to the range with the Steyr. I put three rounds through on a known distance range at Holdsworthy, 100mm grouping, thats without zeroing! Could not believe it, recoil the same as the Steyr. A very impressive piece of military equipment." This American website, Snip Country may be of interest: http://www.snipercountry.com/sniper.htm Yours, Jock in Sydney
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Gordon Angus Mackinlay
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I don't known why but on reading this posting I find that parts of it had vanished. So am repeating Ladies and Gentlemen, have just been reading these postings with interest. Below is a response I made to a question on 2nd battalion, The Parachute Regiment in Macedonia, about the 12 man sniper section of Patrols Company armed with ".338 calibre sniper weapons" "It is the Accuracy International (see their website) .338 (8.6mm) Super Magnum (also known as the Supra Lupua, 3000 fps) weapons system fitted with the Bausch & Lomb 10x42-power scope. Basically the L96A1 design, only much better. Bolt action weapon, 5 round mag, 6.8kg (empty without telescope, 1268mm long. Its barrel is much heavier than the L96. According to the blurb from AI it can be ordered in .300 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum calibres This system gives first hit probability out to 1,100+ metres without the weight and recoil penalty of the .5 Browning cartridge as used by such 12.7mm weapons as the Barrett or the MacMillan. The Royal Marines bought 44, and the regular army 73. Also is fitted in British service with the Simrad KN200 night optics. I had the pleasure of firing it at the begining of the year, it is an absolutely unbelievable piece of equipment. The .338 round has an incrediably flat trajectory, actual bullet is made out of tungston (A$15:80 each), and its kinetic energy is 85% of the .5 Browning on impact. It also comes in at one third of the price of the .5 Barrett M90A1. A very old friend (served together at Infantry Centre) is the AI rep in AUST/NZ, he got both to buy the L96 in 7.62mm. But, for some reason the AUST Army has a fixation with the Barrett M90A1, and will so buy. Weapon and ammunition much more expensive, spare parts extremely expensive (firing pin $114, and break after some 38-40 rounds!), big heavy awkward thing to carry, operator needs specialist training beyond that normally needed by a marksman/sniper. Totally beyond me. I must admit I'm bias, in my youth I was a very good shot, and was still shooting on a regular basis until about ten years ago. In recent years however only to the range with the Steyr, and 9mm Browning. I put three rounds through on a known distance range at Holdsworthy, 100mm grouping at 950 metres, thats without zeroing! Could not believe it, recoil the same as the Steyr. A very impressive piece of military equipment." This American website, Sniper Country may be of interest: http://www.snipercountry.com/sniper.htm Yours, Jock in Sydney
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