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Topic: Is the MTVL the right vehicle for Engineers in a LAV Bde?

McG
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posted 30 January 2021 13:10

The Mobile Tactical Vehicle Light (MTVL) is a modernized version of the M113 armoured personnel carrier with increased mobility and capacity. It will be used in field engineer, vehicle recovery and general purpose support roles.

While better that the old M113's the MTVL will still lack the speed to keep pace with all LAV unit. The Engineer SEV, which would be more capable to keep pace w/the LAV, lacks the protection of an armoured vehicle and puts the section members (and therefore the mission) at greater risk.

A much better option would have been to replace both vehicles with a LAV III Engineer, and give the SEVs to the reservists.

Engineer MTVL

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Chimo!

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Yard Ape
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posted 08 February 2021 10:47

From what I've seen the LAV III Engineer, being bought by the US, is turretless and has a mine plow on the front. The LAV III Pioneer that we will be getting, I have head, has the same turret as our APC's and a dozer blade similar to the Engr M113. Can somebody tell me if i have these descriptions acurate.

We need wheeled engineer support that can keep pace with our LAV formations. Which model would best serve our engineers?

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McG
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posted 04 October 2021 11:48

The LAV III Pioneer will not have a turret, nor will it be restricted from using the Pearson Mine Plow. The vehicle will have a remote weapon station allowing the crew to fire a machine gun while inside. The mounting system for the mine plow and the dozer blade are the same. If Canada were to buy mine plows, they could be instaled while in the field.

Overall this vehicle will improve upon the capabilities of the MLVW SEV and Engr M113. It maintains all the hydraulic capabilities, is able to drill 3 flights into the ground with the auger, and includes a crane.

Rumor has it that these vehicle will all be going to the Engineers when the Pioneers disapear.

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colgan
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posted 08 October 2021 15:41

McG is this eng lav in the picture a u.s. unit or a canadian test unit ? [Canadian]

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McG
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posted 08 October 2021 22:02

This is a Canadian prototype.

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Yard Ape
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posted 11 October 2021 15:43

what features will the US LAV III Engineer have?

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armybuck041
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posted 08 November 2021 01:30

I have to chuckle about your idea of giving the current M113A2 SEV to the reserves, and ask do you have any idea how much it costs to run/repair/maint track veh. It is way out of the reserve budget price range.

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McG
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posted 09 November 2021 00:58

Actualy, I was suggesting to give the MLVW SEVs, still used by the Reg force, to the Reserves. The 113's and MTVL's can be parked next to the Shermans down range.

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armybuck041
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posted 09 November 2021 05:47

My appologies, yes I whole heartedly agree with you. Actually, while at 2 CER we recieved all the remaining M113's in 2 CMBG, after the other lodger unit's had theirs replaced by the LAV/Coyote. We were in the process of VMO'ing our remaining MLVW SEV's to the Reserve Unit's of LFCA. Look for them at a location near you soon. The other funny thing about the M113, aside from it being horribly outdated is that they actually have that "UN" white one as a monument at the entrance command road in CTC Gagetown. The funny thing is that we are still using the M113A1 at this time!! While in Yugo on my last tour we used the DAREOD M113 quite a bit. It has the "Silver T" Bison engine in it, as well as some other powertrain mods......I must admit we were impressed with it's ability to climb hills etc. The only 2 things that really bothered us after trials with the MTLV, was the fact that the fuel cells were in the floor (wouldn't want to hit a mine), and it still has that decrepid diesel fired heater that is less reliable than Gagetown weather. It is a pretty quick tracked machine though. No where near as fast as a LAV mind you.......

Which unit are you with "McG"

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