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fusilier
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posted 12 February 2021 23:22
I don't know about anyone else, but have all the other infanteers out there experienced rivalry from other combat arms? You know what I mean, the Artillery and the Armoured Corps seem to have some sort of animosity towards all of us. And I'm sure we've all heard that saying that all of them seem to say " I have the exact same training you do" or "I can do your job". Tell me, if an artilleryman can do my job with their one week or so of infantry training, why did I take seven weeks of it? Most of these allegations are unfounded and untrue. I once had a Gunner give me an order, claiming he was a higher rank than me, because he was a Gunner but I was only a Pte., even though I had more time in. He claimed that Gunner is a higher rank than a Pte so I said "I'm not a Pte, I'm a Fusilier!!!!" My personal feelings on the issue is that we each have our own job that we're trained to do, I'll do my job, they can do their's.--------------------
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RCA
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posted 13 February 2021 18:25
And your point is.....As far as most commanders are concerned no one arm can go it on their own. I know the infantry like to think they can but that is a good way to get their ass waxed. And for the record the official role of the field artillery is "to destroy or neutralize the enemy with indirect fire as part of the all arms battle" and all gunners are fully aware of that role. Part of the problem is the "walk a mile in my shoes" syndrome. In the reserves (especilly) there is virtually no interaction between arms to actually see what the other does. Everyone assumes they have the hardest job. I don't begrudge an infantyman walking everywhere with all his kit on only to stop dig a hole, sleep in it and carry on the next day doing the same. The armoured ride every where but when the shooting starts where to you hide. the grunt can jump in his hole but a tanker... In the artillery we were considered the second prioity target after nuclear systems. we see what arty can do and personally I don't want to be under it. Engineers- mine and boobytrap clearing So we all have our crosses to bear. As Red Green says " We have to all pull together" -------------------- Ubique
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bossi
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posted 14 February 2021 12:22
The Combined Arms Team - don't leave home without it!One well-known Brigadier always phrases his requirements of the ideal infantryman as "athlete, stalker, marksman". I always feel a little inclined to put it on a lower plane and to say that the qualities of a successful poacher, cat burglar, and gunman would content me. Sir Archibald Wavell, "The Training of the Army for War", February 1933 Ten thousand cavalry only amount to ten thousand men. No one has ever died in battle through being bitten or kicked by a horse. It is men who do whatever gets done in battle. Xenophon: Speech to the Greek army after the defeat of Cyrus at Cunaxa, 401 B.C. Artillery without targets is in a fair way to become a target itself. Major General Orlando Ward, USA: Letter, 1965 (sorry - couldn't find anything half-decent about engineers or signals) --------------------
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ender
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posted 13 March 2021 21:06
Hey, everyone know the Engineers are the best. (First in , Last out)Whoever said that the infantry can win the war all by itself is full of crap. Without us, you can't get anywhere. (but even engineers need food and bullets and stuff, so we also depend on other people) But I don't claim that my infantry skills are better than that of the infantry. (although we did kick the butts of some infantry units at the Brigade competition- but I digress) We all have our specializtion. (mine doesn't involve spelling) In my limited experience, it seems to me that sappers and infantry get along ok, but we don't like the artillery or the armoured too much. But we are all united in the fight against the evil service battalions!
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