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Re: Red Sash

Fenian Raids, but Ottawa really doesn't like hearing about. As well I believe there
were several cadets who received the General Service (Canada - Fenian Raids) medal.
I'm still looking up the info...I have it around here... somewhere...
Francois
Ian Edwards wrote:
> Clive and Francois:
>
> Doesn't UCC carry Battle Honour(s) from the War of 1812 (or was it just
> the Fenian Raids?).
>
> "F. A." wrote:
> >
> > Clive,
> >
> >         1836? I understood that CC#2 was formed as a drill association in 1864
> > around the Fenian raids. Do you have any literature or info on the 1836 date?
> > I'm doing research into the cadet movement and this would be most helpful.
> > Thanks...
> >
> > Francois Arseneault
> >
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Only in Cadets where I had the honour of being the cadet RSM of the British
> > > Commonwealth's oldest cadet corps - Bishop's College School Cadet Corps
> > > (CC#2) founded in 1836. However, if your comment is based on my previous
> > > post, I should tell you that I, as a lowly 2LT, only did the SI. It was the
> > > CO who passed sentence.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: JEFF HYSLOP [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: February 14, 2021 6:54 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Red Sash
> > >
> > > Clive;
> > >
> > > You sound like someone that has never worn a sash!
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2021 10:52
> > > Subject: RE: Red Sash
> > >
> > > >You are correct that MWOs and CWOs in the Guards (at least) wear a darker
> > > >sash. Burgundy is the colour that comes to mind but that may because I had
> > > >too much wine last night. I believe that Highland Regiments also wear
> > > >different shades as I seem to remember seeing the Black Watch RSM in a
> > > >darker sash than his NCOs. This sash is not to be confused with that worn
> > > by
> > > >some Highland Regiment officers.
> > > >BTW, Many moon ago I had to do a Summary Investigation on a Canadian
> > > >Grenadier Guard MWO who, due to his considerable girth, took two silk
> > > sashes
> > > >and spliced them into one XXL sash. The findings resulted in the MWO paying
> > > >for replacement sashes. In 1974 this amounted to $120.00, about 3 days pay
> > > >then!
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Ian Edwards [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >Sent: February 12, 2021 11:13 PM
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: Re: Red Sash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The originator of this "thread" also asked about varying colours
> > > >of the sash. I don't recall the answer and hope someone else will, but I
> > > >am sure Sgts and S/Sgt (or Colour Sergeants in Guards regiments and ?)
> > > >and now Sgts and WOs wore/wear scarlet while WO2s (MWOs) wore maroon
> > > >sashes. Can't recall why the difference. Hope someone knows.
> > > >Next question: when did the tradition start, or rather become formalized
> > > >in dress codes. I would bet after Crimean War, but perhaps Napoleonic
> > > >wars? Should be easy to research. Damned hard to keep the sash "up" in
> > > >that era of the 70s and later when there were no shoulder straps on CF
> > > >tunics!
> > > >
> > > >Ian Edwards
> > > >
> > > >Bryon McLeod wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> . The sash is traditionally worn by "line"
> > > >> regiments which carry colours. This includes Highland and Scottish
> > > >regiments
> > > >> but excludes Rifle regiments as they do not carry colours per se
> > > (although
> > > >> many have them on their cap badges).
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all ,....
> > > >>
> > > >> I wanted to add that in some regiments Drum Majors wear a claret sash it
> > > >is
> > > >> sort of similar to a Sgt. sash but made of silk.  In addition the very
> > > >same
> > > >> is seen with officers et. al. Capt. of the week.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bryon
> > > >>
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