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POLL: Pierre Trudeau is the #1 worst Canadian?

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the 48th regulator said:
uhm, yah. (I am lost in your post...it is....hazy)

Wasn't he made CDS under a Liberal Government??


My point was that no matter what a politician does, he WILL be wrong in someone's mind, and as a result MUST be villified. I'm not knocking any Parties. As for Trudeau, he was a brilliant and effective leader. He was able to capture peoples' hearts, minds, and imaginations. I may not agree with a piece or 2 of the legislation passed under his tenure, but I'm not saying he was a garbage PM, or was the number one worst canadian. I happen to admire LBP more than PET, but that's like saying I prefer beer over scotch.


My point about Hillier has nothing to do with the Liberals. I'm saying that with the amount of mudslinging political leaders have to endure, it's no wonder he maintains that we're not going to be seeing his name on any ballots in the near future.


Sorry for the overly metaphorical mini-rant.
 

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With the possible exception of Louis St Laurent, you would be hard pressed to find any 20th Century PM who didn't do something that somebody didn't like.  King tended to dither and pander to the polls too much.  He spent much of WW2 trying to remind Canadians that he was actually the PM (not Churchill).  Diefenbaker also dithered too much and cancelled the Arrow project.  Pearson introduced the Maple Leaf Flag (which I personally think was a good thing, but there are some folks who still complain about it 45 years later) and killed the RCN, RCAF and Canadian Army.  Clark embarrassed the country by attempting to move our embassy in Isreal to Jerusalem.  It is now coming to light that Mulroney was a bit of a crook.

You can pick apart the tenure of any PM to find negative things.  I will never forgive Trudeau for gutting the CF the way he did, but he does deserve some credit for overhauling the Criminal Code (when he was Minister of Justice) and although he is often accused of being pro-Quebec, he was in fact, very much against any special treatment for Quebec.  Trudeau was by no means the worst Canadian ever and he was not even the worst PM.  I'm inclined to say that title is a tie between Mulroney and Chretien.  In retrospect, we can see that both were two-faced crooks who were more concerned with their egos than they were about what was best for the country.  Mulroney jumped in bed with the separatists (including Lucien Bouchard who was the biggest two-faced, traitorous, lying bastard* of them all) and what Chretien did to Paul Martin is absolutely inexcusable.

*the English language does not have words adequate enough to fully describe the enmity I have for this man.
 

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MCG said:
I'd think Bernardo should be sitting higher on the list than any Trudeau.

I was just gonna say, Bernardo & Pig Killer Picton would be my #1 and 2 respectively.... very close to a tie, and then whats-her-face Karla Homolka...
 

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Kat Stevens said:
Well, I have, and if it weren't for EI, I'd be living in my truck right now.

Amen. As an ex-military wife who followed my spouse to support him and his role in the military, this was essential for my survival as I relocated to an area with an incredible amount of high-unemployment...
 

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armychick2009 said:
I was just gonna say, Bernardo & Pig Killer Picton would be my #1 and 2 respectively.... very close to a tie, and then whats-her-face Karla Homolka...

I could go a little further back in time to Saul Betesh and Robert Kribs. Their crime is largely forgotten now, but it created the most intense scenes of public grief, and grief turned to anger, that I ever witnessed in-person. 15,000 people marched from City Hall to Queen's Park. It was mass hysteria. A lot of massage studios got closed down fast on the Yonge Street Strip.
As far as I know, 33 years later, those guys are still in penitentiary.


 

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"From a Military" point of view I would say he rates well up there and should be in the running.
However, there are many more "#1 worst Canadians" around, most recently that piece of crap now in Kingston who should have went before the Firing squad for killing one of his own let alone the rest of his activities.
 

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Seems like everyone her is getting wrapped up over nothing. On-line polls and in no-way can be considered to be scientific and should be ignored.
 

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Retired AF Guy said:
Seems like everyone her is getting wrapped up over nothing. On-line polls and in no-way can be considered to be scientific and should be ignored.

Only the necroposters seem to care. ;)
 

the 48th regulator

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farmer 1 said:
"From a Military" point of view I would say he rates well up there and should be in the running.
However, there are many more "#1 worst Canadians" around, most recently that piece of crap now in Kingston who should have went before the Firing squad for killing one of his own let alone the rest of his activities.

"From a Military" point of view??  Why?  Because he streamlined it?  He was one of few that actually used the military for actions within this country, to quell rebellion.

Are you saying our Military is weaker now, because of him?  If not, what PM fixed after the fact?

"From a Military" point of view....I shall retire to Bedlham....

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We won Quebec by Trudeau's gentlemanly generosity through bilingualism. The rest are arrogant. But we became burdened with debt.
2-1=1. He earned some points. "There are no communists nor socialists in ______"-W.E.
 

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littleprairie said:
We won Quebec by Trudeau's gentlemanly generosity through bilingualism. The rest are arrogant. But we became burdened with debt.
2-1=1. He earned some points. "There are no communists nor socialists in ______"-W.E.

I am curious how exactly we won Quebec through the Official Languages Act pushed through by Trudeau?  They in my opinion have abjectly rejected it through their own  laws adopted just a few short years later.  Their Official Language Act (Bill 22) and the Charter of the French Language (Bill 101) leaves little doubt in my mind that the appeasement and bowing down for Quebec in the 60's and 70's only strengthened their resolve to push the rest of Canada around.

 

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That POS supported the Soviet Union in our battle with them he was the biggest traitor wannabe Soviet we ever had,burn in your special place in hell.
Oh and thanks for the debt you facsist loving putz.
 

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MJP said:
I am curious how exactly we won Quebec through the Official Languages Act pushed through by Trudeau?  They in my opinion have abjectly rejected it through their own  laws adopted just a few short years later.  Their Official Language Act (Bill 22) and the Charter of the French Language (Bill 101) leaves little doubt in my mind that the appeasement and bowing down for Quebec in the 60's and 70's only strengthened their resolve to push the rest of Canada around.

The federal government won some sympahizers in the immigrant community during the first and second referendum. They just cannot be taken for granted. Wisdom lies in the electorate.
 
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